为啥这么多球星33-35岁依旧巅峰不减！球迷：球鞋和睡眠

为啥这么多球星33-35岁依旧巅峰不减！球迷：球鞋和睡眠

近日，Reddit上发布了一条关于为什么这么多的超级球星在33-35岁依旧巅峰不减？他引言写道：这绝对是 2000 年代的事情。甜瓜、麦迪、保罗-皮尔斯、韦德、德怀特-霍华德等人都在这个年龄段或更早的时间里走下坡路，人们总是提到勒布朗在33岁时依然如此出色。起初，这似乎是一种反常现象。现在，像库里、KD、小卡、利拉德、勒布朗（嘿嘿）、吉米-巴特勒等人，都在33岁之后仍处于巅峰状态，这是科技和医学的进步吗？还是其他什么原因？引来热议，一起来看看球迷如何评论！

sport science, modern medicine, better pt, peds, better nutrition, load management, less hard fouls better shoes....less binge drinking, cig smoking, and coke use.

运动科学、现代医学、更好的治疗、更好的营养、负荷管理、更少的粗暴犯规、更好的鞋....，减少酗酒、吸烟和使用可卡因。

This ties in with sports science, but sleep more specifically. Sleep impacts literally every facet of life. Physical performance, mental performance, mood, stress, immune system, etc.

这与运动科学有关，但更具体地说是与睡眠有关，睡眠影响着生活的方方面面。身体表现、精神表现、情绪、压力、免疫系统等。

There was an article on ESPN some years ago that made a pretty good point about how Tinder and other dating apps have had a huge impact on the players' sleep times and schedules which is obviously beneficial for their performances.

几年前，ESPN 上有一篇文章说得很好，Tinder 和其他应用程序对球员的睡眠时间和日程安排产生了巨大影响，这显然有利于他们的表现。

Was there compelling data behind that? It's a fascinating argument, but I'm wondering if it was just conjecture from the author, of if there was some kind of credible empirical basis for it.

这背后有令人信服的数据吗？这是一个引人入胜的论点，但我想知道这是否只是作者的猜想，是否有某种可靠的经验依据。

Shoes. The evolution has been insane - the lessening of impact on the knees and ankles has been a savior for a lot of guys

鞋，鞋子的演变是疯狂的--减少对膝盖和脚踝的冲击是许多人的救星。

This is a huge thing in other sports has well. More specialized shoes for more specific activities help athletes perform better/for longer.

在其他运动中，这也是一件大事。针对更多特定活动的更专业化的运动鞋有助于运动员发挥得更好/更持久。

Emphasis on shooting and more complex team defensive schemes means skill and experience can trump pure athleticism.

强调投篮和更复杂的团队防守战术意味着技术和经验可以战胜纯粹的运动能力。

I used to ball in the TMac 1 and 2 back in the day so grabbed some when they re-released a couple years ago. And compared to the Jordan 36 they’re literal bricks lol. The grip, cushioning, energy return, weight. It’s insane.

我以前穿过 麦迪 1 代和 2代，所以在几年前重新发售时买了一些。与乔丹 36 相比，它们简直就是砖头，抓地力、缓冲性、能量回馈、重量相差很大，太疯狂了。

To me, it's really the weight. I used the TMac 2 for a few years of high school ball. I thought it was a pretty good shoe back then. Starting with the Nike Hyperdunk (I think), the shoes became significantly lighter and they've just kept improving on that base design since then.

对我来说，这确实是重量的问题。我在高中打了几年球，穿的是麦迪2代。当时我觉得这双鞋很不错。从耐克 Hyperdunk（我想）开始，球鞋明显变得更轻了，而且从那时起，他们就在这个基础设计上不断改进。

After not buying basketball shoes since around 2009, I bought some cheap Giannis’ last December. They blew my mind — how springy and comfortable they were — compared to my late 90s early 2000s high school shoes. And those were the cheap ones. Tried on some Kobe’s a couple months later and they were the most comfortable and athletic shoes I’ve ever put on. I take them off and feel old. Put them on and feel young. Not exaggerating.

自从 2009 年左右没买过篮球鞋后，去年 12 月我买了几双便宜的字母哥签篮球鞋。它们让我大吃一惊--与我上世纪 90 年代末、2000 年代初的高中鞋相比，它们是多么有弹性、多么舒适。而且还是便宜货。几个月后，我试穿了几双科比的鞋，那是我穿过的最舒服、最运动的鞋，脱下它，我觉得自己老了。穿上后，感觉自己年轻了。毫不夸张。

this guy sports. this is the future of sports. We gonna see more Ronaldos, Lebrons, Bradys.

这才是体育的未来，我们会看到更多的罗纳尔多、勒布朗和布雷迪。

Private planes instead of commercial and crappy buses. The array of options available to someone making 20 million a year as far as health and body treatment are crazy compared to past and even then the average salary is way higher now

私人飞机取代了商用飞机和蹩脚的公共汽车，与过去相比。年薪 2000 万的人在健康和身体治疗方面的选择实在是太多了，即便如此，现在的平均工资也要高得多。

Seems more like your selection bias. Several of the current players you mentioned have had struggles with injuries in recent years, and you are ignoring some of the better players from the 2000s who did age gracefully.

Is it so hard to imagine a few years from now we will look back and see Kawhi’s last prime season was 2020 when he was 28?

这更像是你的选择偏见。你提到的几位现役球员近些年都在与伤病作斗争，而你却忽略了 2000 年代的一些优秀球员，他们确实在优雅地老去。很难想象几年后我们回过头来看，小卡的上一个黄金赛季是 2020 年，当时他 28 岁？

True. A lot of guys have flamed out early, like Demarcus Cousins, Brandon Roy. List goes on and on. Kawhi is definitely in decline, he’s not 2019 kawhi any more and he can’t play 2 games without getting injured.

没错，很多人都早早的走下坡路，比如德马库斯-考辛斯、布兰登-罗伊。这样的例子数不胜数，小卡肯定在走下坡路，他不再是 2019 年的小卡了，他打不了两场比赛就会受伤。

John wall, Russell westbrook, declined early. There are other examples.

约翰-沃尔、拉塞尔-威斯布鲁克，早早就走下坡路了，还有其他例子。

He’s also ignoring guys like Karl Malone and MJ who won MVP’s at 35.

A big reason media switched from comparing Lebron at X age to season X several seasons back, was because players in the past had achieved things at the same age or older.

他还忽略了像卡尔-马龙和 MJ 这样在 35 岁时获得 MVP 的球员。早在几个赛季前，媒体就不再将勒布朗在 X 岁时的表现与 X 赛季的表现相提并论，其中一个重要原因就是过去的球员在相同年龄或更大年龄时都取得了成就。

It’s situational. T-Mac and Dwight declined ahead of the curve because of injuries. Wade, Melo, Pierce all did between 33-35 like you said, but there’s no proof that some of the current guys won’t see that sudden sign of decline within the next couple of years similarly.

Also, players like Kawhi/Jimmy have a physical, deliberate style of play that ages gracefully. The shooters like Dame/Curry/KD will never lose that shooting touch unless their legs lose power entirely.

And then LeBron is the exception, not the rule.

这是形式所迫。麦迪和德怀特因为伤病提前衰退了，韦德、甜瓜、皮尔斯都在 33-35 岁之间出现了下滑，就像你说的那样，但没有证据表明现在的一些球员不会在未来几年内同样出现突然下滑的迹象。
此外，像小卡/吉米-巴特勒这样的球员拥有身体素质、深思熟虑的打球风格，他们会优雅地老去。而像利拉德/库里/KD 这样的射手，除非腿部完全失去力量，否则永远不会失去投篮手感。那么勒布朗就是例外，不符合常规。

LeBron and Butler actually have a lot in common, although LeBron is obviously better. But both of them play a very physical game that doesn’t depend on pure athleticism.

The difference in their durability is that LeBron is a tank who seemingly never got injured in his prime, whereas Butler rarely plays a full season and just needs to focus on being healthy in the playoffs. Even in the playoffs, though, Butler has a harder time sustaining that physical style of play.

Look at last season, where Butler was clearly hobbled in the Finals. Look at game five of the 2020 Finals, where Butler matched LeBron and came out the victor — but had nothing left in game six.

勒布朗和巴特勒其实有很多共同点，虽然勒布朗显然更胜一筹。但他们都注重身体对抗的比赛，并不依赖于纯粹的运动能力。

他们在耐久性上的区别在于，勒布朗是一个坦克，他在巅峰时期似乎从未受过伤，而巴特勒很少打满一个赛季，只需要在季后赛中专注于保持健康。不过，即使在季后赛中，巴特勒也更难保持这种身体对抗风格。
看看上赛季，巴特勒在总决赛中明显步履蹒跚。再看看 2020 年总决赛的第五场，巴特勒与勒布朗对位，最终取得了胜利，但在第六场比赛中，巴特勒已经无力回天。

But LeBron is already declining, it’s that you maybe can’t see it in his stats but eye test tells a different story, but he’ll be 39 in 2 month so of course his body response different to how it was 2020 fe.

但勒布朗已经在走下坡路了，只是你可能无法从他的数据中看出来，但目测却能看出不同的情况，但再过两个月他就 39 岁了，所以他的身体反应当然会和 2020 年的时候不同。

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